Biden sees ‘chaos’ as US pressures Taliban to let Afghans leave

US President Joe Biden said Wednesday it had been impossible to leave Afghanistan without chaos, as the United States pleaded with the victorious Taliban to allow safe passage for people to flee.

Amid desperate scenes at the Kabul airport where US forces are racing against the clock to evacuate tens of thousands of people, Biden stood by his decision to end the 20-year US war in Afghanistan.

“The idea that somehow there’s a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, I don’t know how that happens,” Biden said in an ABC News television interview.

The Biden administration had long promised an “orderly drawdown” of America’s longest war, where the president says US forces no longer have any national interest in fighting in a protracted conflict.

Biden, in the ABC interview, said that he hoped the thousands of US troops sent back to Afghanistan for the evacuations would be out by August 31, the deadline he set to end the war.

But for the first time he said they could stay longer, adding: “If there’s American citizens left, we’re going to stay to get them all out.”

The president, who has acknowledged that he was stunned by the swift collapse of the US-backed Afghan government, ordered the takeover of the Kabul airport to run evacuations.

He said the Taliban were cooperating on letting Americans get out but added: “We’re having some more difficulty having those who helped us when we were in there.”

Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman voiced alarm at accounts of harassment and checkpoints for Afghan nationals, despite the Taliban’s promises not to carry out reprisals.

“We have seen reports that the Taliban, contrary to their public statements and their commitments to our government, are blocking Afghans who wish to leave the country from reaching the airport,” Sherman told reporters.

US diplomats and military officials “are engaging directly with the Taliban to make clear that we expect them to allow all American citizens, all third-country nationals and all Afghans who wish to leave to do so safely and without harassment,” she said.

Aircraft have been packed cheek to jowl with Afghans fearing for their lives, with deaths reported after people crawled onto jets and fell upon takeoff.

Sherman said that the future US relationship with the Taliban was at stake and also vowed to watch carefully their promises to ensure the rights of women and girls – who were barred from education and outside employment during the Islamists’ draconian 1996-2001 regime.

“The Taliban are hoping to create a government in Afghanistan. They seek legitimacy. We are all watching their actions,” she said.

“We’ll use every economic, diplomatic and political tool we have to hold the Taliban to their words.”

Limits at airport

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin promised the United States would evacuate as many people as possible but acknowledged the limitations with the Taliban in charge except at the airport.

“We don’t have the capability to go out and collect large numbers of people,” Austin told reporters.

The evacuation will go on “until the clock runs out or we run out of capacity.”

More than 4,800 people including US citizens and Afghans have been evacuated since troops secured Hamid Karzai International Airport, where the US embassy has been temporarily relocated.

But tens of thousands more Afghans are expected to seek to leave for fear of Taliban retribution including interpreters for the US military, workers for US non-governmental organizations and media outlets and women’s rights activists.

Third-party nationals have faced severe problems, with the Netherlands saying its first evacuation flight returned without a single Dutch or Afghan national as US troops blocked them from entering the airport.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday renewed an offer for his country to help protect the airport, an offer he first pitched directly to Biden in June.